In a new interview with Remzi "Jam Man" Yates of Rocking With Jam Man, BLACK SABBATH's touring drummer Tommy Clufetos reflected on why he wasn't chosen to play drums on the band's final album, 2013's ".13." Clufetos explained that the decision was made by producer Rick Rubin, who chose RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE drummer Brad Wilk for the project.

"Well, bottom line, I didn't get chosen to play on the record," Clufetos stated.

"And I think even Ozzy cleared it up that [he] and the guys wanted me to play on the record.

Whether that's true or not, this is what he said.

['13' album producer] Rick Rubin chose his drummer, which was Brad Wilk, and they made a really great record that went to Number One, so it's hard to argue with the outcome.

It's all water under the bridge," Clufetos added.

Clufetos also discussed the challenges of being a sideman musician versus being a member of a band.

"Being a sideman musician versus being a member of a band makes you tougher," Tommy explained.

"Because you learn that the show must go on, and the show will always go on.\